A Thought on TJ Amick Dating

[AndersLevant]

Man, TJ, you had me completely fooled. I thought you were some grizzled old man with nothing to do, but then you mention that you have a prom to go to and I realize that you're still in high school. Which means you're younger than I am. And that got me thinking, so I checked all the profiles of the most frequent posters -- because that's the kind of guy I am -- and can you believe that I'm pretty much older than most of the trainables who bothered to put in their birthdates. Of course, there is the possibility that those who chose to enter birthdates were just making them up, but if you were going to make them up, why pretend to be some eighteen year old? That, my brothers, would be weird.

And then, dudes, as I was checking for spelling errors, I looked out my window and spied all the little children at recess, so then it really blew my mind to think that the comedy wizard that TJ Amick makes himself out to be, will very soon be sitting in class all day long. I bet sitting in class all day makes him angry. I know it sure made me angry.

And I guess to live up to the subject, I hope TJ recognizes the subtle difference between dating and stalking -- with the occasional raping -- because when I was his age I sure didn't.

[agent_PUNT]

I remember my prom. But, more vividly, I remember my younger sisters prom. God we were so drunk.

[agent_PUNT]

actually, she was sobre.

sober? sobre.

Anders, doesn't kind of feel bad to know that he still has his whole life to live, and here you are on the same website he is at 20 years younger?.. thus meaning that you have basically gotten no where in those extra 20 years?

Please don't be upset, as I am not serious. She was very drunk.

[tjamick]

i'm a 17 year old who pretends, with the assistance of a fake mustash, to be 21 (and from the turn of the century). i know the difference between stocking and dating. stocking is when you scrape a knife across some ones window, dating is when you do it with love.

[AndersLevant]

Yes, but do you know the difference between secretly following/trailing/spying upon another and placing things on shelves?

Also, Punt, I myself am still a youthful 20.

[tjamick]

then how are you older then everyone here. the only people here that are under 20 would be me, rizzlemcizzle, cptplanet, and julie. every one else is older.

[AndersLevant]

I was very careful not say I'm older than everyone, I just said I'm older than most of the people who post most frequently and who had chosen to give their brithdates. In my opinion, you -- by you I mean TJ -- Capt Planet and Agent Punt are the most frequent posters. And that would mean I am older than two out of three. And I do believe that I learned somewhere back in third or fourth grade that two divided by three equals two thirds. And two thirds, in my opinion, qualifies as most. There, I have explained myself. I apologize if I upset you TJ.

Also, I was sort of making a joke about how I am really practically the same age as you.

[tjamick]

dont talk anymore. you lost your privlages

[Treebeard]

I'm 19, fool.

[AndersLevant]

Did someone take away your spelling privileges? Because it seems like you could really use them back.

[tjamick]

its a disability.

[AndersLevant]

Also, I was intrigued by how young it turns out everyone was. TJ, this is a credit to your comedy. I thought that I was pretty much the youngest person here. But in an odd twist of events, I was sickened and turned on to discover that I am not.

[AndersLevant]

Above all I try to be an accommodating person. It was never my intention to insult or upset someone as young as TJ. Because in these trying times, the child abuser label is certainly not an attractive one.

[tjamick]

but nothings sexier then a child molester label. bah-zing

[tjamick]

i made it myself.

[Pali]

You know what's reeeally fucking funny though? Someone insulting someones ability to use standard english while using non standard forms themselves.

Oh and I'm 18 too..you left me out of your list :(

[tjamick]

its because we're young and our wits are quick.

[Pali]

Well the first bit was referring to that guys insult of tjamick's English. And the second was referring to the list tjamick posted, showing all the people who were under 20 or something.

Does that clarify it for you, you PRICK!?

[AndersLevant]

I wasn't insulting anything but his spelling. Clearly I am using substandard grammar in my posts. I will be the first to admit it (Actually, I've ended up being the second because someone called me out on it, but I will be the first to explain it). In fact, I used to be a bit of a grammar freak in any writing, but upon my most recent reading of one of David Foster Wallace's writings -- in fact it was his article in Gourmet Magazine -- I realized that if the King of the English Language doesn't care about grammar, why should I?

[apotatojudge]

Makes me barf.

I am high and watched Alien Versus Pretador at midnight earlier. DOnt s'ee it.

I am nineteen for a few more days.

Then I watched Dodgeball (super imposed) and drank some beer and only watched it cause JASON BATEMAN was in it. he's so hot.


love you guys,

julie.

[tjamick]

i had a teacher once who was in love with steve buscemi, so every day in english class we watched "tree's lounge".
unlike dodgeball, trees lounge is good.

[agent_PUNT]

I am the old man of this group. If we were a cult I'd get to impregnant all the women. And I'd think I was Jesus's lapdog.

Fuck i wish this was a cult.

[tjamick]

i have, on many ocassions, thought about starting a cult. we need to have a secret meeting in a cave to go over our plans on how to recruit off-beat kids into thinking that we have all the love they need.

[Tommy]

Hey, SBJ... you think Jason Bateman is hot... but what do you think of Max Casella?

[tjamick]

i've been told that i look like john mayor with downs syndrome.:D

[Tommy]

John "Corky" Mayer... "I wanna run through the halls of my high school... while being chased by my school aid"?

Wait... I thought he already had down syndrome? Or was that all the drugs?

You da man!

- Gordon Pritchard

[tjamick]

i dont know who the hell he is. my friend just told me that and alot of people tell me i look like him. i dont know if i've ever even seen him.

[Tommy]

http://www.john-mayer-tickets.com/john_mayer2.jpg

[tjamick]

i am him with downs syndrome.

i'm gonna go and shoot myself in the forehead.

[AndersLevant]

Do you ever wonder if people tell him that he's you without Down's sybdrome?

[tjamick]

i think they do.

[tjamick]

actually that picture does look alot like me.

[agent_PUNT]

Originally posted by AndersLevant
Do you ever wonder if people tell him that he's you without Down's sybdrome?

brilliant

[agent_PUNT]

I Look like Tim Robbins, but with talent.

[tjamick]

awsome. that means that you bang jodi foster or something.

[AndersLevant]

I believe he's married to Susan Sarandon, but that in no way limits who he bangs. Unless he's one of those guys who respects the sanctity of marriage. But he looks -- and tastes (take it from me) -- like a swinger to me.

[tjamick]

he rocks. did you know that jack black AND kyle gass got their start in his acting troupe.

[3v3+Z]

I thought Jodi Foster was gay. Is that actually official yet, or is it just one of those things that everybody knows and nobody talks about.

Anyway, ever see "Bob Roberts"? That's a cool movie. Some GREAT music in it, too. J.B. is in it too, and he also sings backup on some of the songs.

[Treebeard]

Originally posted by AndersLevant
I believe he's married to Susan Sarandon, but that in no way limits who he bangs. Unless he's one of those guys who respects the sanctity of marriage. But he looks -- and tastes (take it from me) -- like a swinger to me.

They're actually not married, just "together." I've seen him interviewed and he just says that they don't have any need to get married so they don't bother.

I'd say this lends some credence to your theory.

[AndersLevant]

That whore! He lied to me. He said we were cheating on his WIFE! I never would have done had I known there was no chance of ruining another marriage.

Now I don't know if I can believe that guy who said he was the governor of some state up northeast.

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by tjamick
actually that picture does look alot like me.

your body is a wonderland teej ;)

[tjamick]

and your body is a festival of colors, steam and ginger.

[CptPlanet]

your body is actually more like a rollercoaster made out of fat and lice.

[tjamick]

that's part of the image bitch!

[CptPlanet]

what about the giant black scabs and tracts of necrotic flesh that slough off of your back at the slightest movement and ruin your clothes with a steady stream of nonstop pus?

[tjamick]

halitosus

[CptPlanet]

The human body is an amazing thing, so don't let anyone ever tell you that you're lazy. Even when you're sitting around watching TV there are thousands of chemical and biological processes taking place to keep you going. Take TJ for example, although he thinks he settling in for an afternoon of cartoons and snacking, his body is hard at work festering and smelling.

[CptPlanet]

I tried to adapt that from a paragraph in my old Biology 100 book about the human body making poop and blood cells but I think I failed horribly.

[tjamick]

dude, you could write for robin williams

[CptPlanet]

THANKS!!!!!

[Treebeard]

Originally posted by tjamick
dude, you could write for robin williams

Nobody writes for Robin Williams! He just riffs his whole show. That's why his jokes are always fresh and original and you never see him repeat the same jokes over and over at every event he somehow shows up at, which is everything.

[tjamick]

he just has a stream of consciousness and its just amazing what this man can come up with.

[3v3+Z]

That reminds me, I gotta go poop.

[CptPlanet]

i can't tell if you guys are being sarcastic but i imagine that robin williams put on a pretty good show back in the day. i used to watch robin williams tapes with my parents when i was little and it was always super:cool: even though i didn't get half the jokes.

he's a hairy, entrancing simian and i love his antics to death.

[3v3+Z]

Sounds like you're faggin' off to 'im right now.

[3v3+Z]

What about his reputation for being a joke-klepto?

I've written more on him in other threads, so I don't wanna repeat myself. I'm also a bastard, so I'm not gonna find the threads for you. Y'all gotta search for it yourselves, if you care enough to bother.

[3v3+Z]

Actually, I don't think I went into any more detail about the joke-klepto part. I thought that was fairly common knowledge, or at least a fairly common accusation. I did think it was odd that it hadn't come up in all this Robin-bashing though, so I wanted to make sure y'all knew about those allegations. I'll go find my previous R.W. thing and see if I mention that. If I don't, I'll talk a little more about it here. Either way I'll link back to my previous rant.

I'll be back in a New York groove, or something like that.

[CptPlanet]

YEAH STEVE! DO IT MAN!

[3v3+Z]

Well, obviously this (http://blowupthemoon.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=628&highlight=robin+AND+williams) wasn't it...

[3v3+Z]

HERE (http://blowupthemoon.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=451&highlight=robin+AND+williams)'S the thread! Eighth post down. No mention of the klepto thing, though. So I'll elaborate on that after I'm through wading through the rest of this bullshit you guys keep posting.

[CptPlanet]

OKAY EVERYONE STOP POSTING FOR AWHILE! STEVE NEEDS TO PLAY CATCHUP!

who specifically does he steal his material from?

[CptPlanet]

oh man i bet no one here even realized that you horsecock

[CptPlanet]

dude that was gold. don't worry.

[3v3+Z]

Okay, it WAS in this thread that we were talking about Robin Williams. I should have left a trail of breadcrumbs or something. Have I mentioned how much I fucking HATE the fact that this place has gotten WAY to busy and fast moving and cluttered with long-ass threads that can't stay on topic?

Anyway, the joke-klepto thing: A lot of comedians complain that he's NOTORIOUS for stealing material. I've heard about comics who REFUSE to go on if they find out he's in the club. They don't want him ganking their act (again???) and using it on TV while they play small clubs and starve and look like THEY'RE the thieves because everyone heard Robin say it first. I need to say that I DON'T know any of this first hand. It's all hearsay. I remember hearing someone recently talk about interviewing a comedian, then seeing Robin Williams on TV shortly thereafter doing the same bit almost word for word. Supposedly there was a lot of detail that he kept in that made it CLEAR that it was no coincidence. It was blatant theft. (ALLEGEDLY!)

Again, I don't know. One theory I've heard floated is that he's out in front of a big audience running on adrenaline (amongst other things at times) and working FAST and UNSCRIPTED. From time to time a joke is gonna come out that he genuinely THINKS he thought of. We've ALL done that. Cryptomnesia (http://skepdic.com/cryptomn.html), they call it. I would imagine it's much worse in a situation like that. The audience is waiting. You don't have the luxury of time to sit and think about whether or not it's actually YOUR joke that you're telling.

Another thing to consider: I brought up the concept of "folk-jolks" earlier somewhere on these goddamn boards. Let me explain a little better why I worded it like that. I've read A LOT about the band Negativland (http://www.negativland.com/)'s legal battles against U2's people. I'm not gonna go off too far on that topic here and derail this thread even FURTHER. There's PLENTY of stuff that you can (and SHOULD) read and listen to at the band's website that I linked to above. Anyway, the one thing I wanted to bring up about Negativland is that when they were accused of plagiarism or copyright infringement or whatever the fuck it was, they brought up folk music. Their argument was that ALL music is, in one way or another, derivative of something else so, basically, embrace that and move the fuck ON! They said that traditional folk music couldn't LEGALLY exist today. Folk music was all about hearing someone else do a song you like and then playing it yourself, then hand it down to the next guy. You think of a better line, you change it. The songs would just EVOLVE naturally and the music would grow and become BETTER over time. Perhaps a more APPROPRIATE example -- and the one I probably should have fucking started with -- would be Vaudeville. It's my understanding that that worked in basically the same way.

Anyway, I've talked too long. Read more about Negativland! And if you haven't heard the songs from their infamous "U2" single, they can be downloaded from this page (http://www.negativland.com/audiogadgets.html) of their site. But for christopher's cross DON'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE! You wanna talk more about Negativland, start a new fucking thread. (Wait, did I just spend half this fucking post talking about how I'm NOT gonna talk about Negativland? Somebody shut me the fuck up!)

[Tommy]

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/gfx/65k-curve-sign.gif

[3v3+Z]

To be fair, I think this thread started out without much direction. Still, it'd be nice if the titles of threads could be updated to reflect their contents. Oh well.

[Pali]

Originally posted by 3v3+Z
Have I mentioned how much I fucking HATE the fact that this place has gotten WAY to busy and fast moving and cluttered with long-ass threads that can't stay on topic?

It was briefly discussed but not lingered on. I agree though. If people are gonna talk like this, it might as well be a chatroom.

[3v3+Z]

Originally posted by CptPlanet
who specifically does he steal his material from?

Jackie Mason? (http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/sept02/steal.html)




Here (http://www.kempa.com/blog/archives/000108.html)'s a blog entry I found by a guy who basically compiled highlights of stories he managed to find online. Nothing firsthand though. But there is a story about Tom "Kinny [sic]" in there.

Another thing I forgot to mention that could possibly explain at least SOME of these allegations is... coincidence. It's certainly not inconceivable that more than one person can have strikingly similar ideas, particularly when you're dealing with something topical. For example, in the past couple years or so I've heard a LOT of "my TiVo thinks I'm GAY!" jokes from different comedians, television show subplots, lame-ass song parodies, etc. Are these people STEALING from each other or did a LOT of people encounter the same funny problem with this device that was NEW to EVERYBODY? I don't find it that hard to believe that it's the latter, at least SOME of the time. They touched on that concept a little in that article and apparently they go even further into that in an article that that article links to (which I didn't read). ...but I thought of it first! :p

[Treebeard]

Originally posted by 3v3+Z
That's PART of it. But the bigger issue to me is that I like to take my time and put some THOUGHT into my posts. And I like to be able to read and absorb other people's posts. I don't see chat rooms as working like that. I'm not interested in typing two words at a time, one of which is always "lol".

r0x0r!

[3v3+Z]

Originally posted by Treebeard
r0x0r!
Ya lost me already.

[CptPlanet]

So Steve did you just change directions there and say that it was OKAY for Robin Williams to steal jokes? That was the impression that I got.

[3v3+Z]

Originally posted by CptPlanet
So Steve did you just change directions there and say that it was OKAY for Robin Williams to steal jokes? That was the impression that I got.
I think I've been pretty consistent. I wonder if maybe it's a matter of my first post on Robin being kind of vague and maybe your brain made the jump to interpret what I was saying as negative. But that's just a guess.

My take on it is, for one thing, I don't know for sure what he did or didn't do. Therefor, I'm not in a position to say whether or not what he allegedly did was okay. And there's too much gray area to start dealing with hypotheticals of best and worst case scenarios. If he's guilty as charged on ALL counts, then he's a dick. If he's innocent of EVERYTHING, then I guess he's okay (but still WAY overrated, obviously). But how likely are either of those extremes? That speeds right past unlikely and smashes into IMPOSSIBLE! I'm not gonna get into, "Well, if he's 10% innocent and 90% guilty..."

I think it's important to find a good artistic balance between the past and the future. FUCK! I'm trying to think of a way to explain myself better without bringing up fucking Negativland again, but I CAN'T! They're just such a PERFECT example! They borrow extensively from other artists, but even when you can recognize the source they are WAY too original to confuse it with the song it came from. Does that apply to Robin Williams? It's tough for me to say at this point. I remember watching "Mork & Mindy" as a kid, but I was too young to know what his standup was like or what anyone else's standup was like. So I have no frame of reference to talk about his originality. And it's too late now to know what standup was like before he came on the scene. Shit, I'm SURE people have stolen stuff from Robin!

I don't know what I'm saying anymore. I hope SOMETHING in there made sense.