Worst/most disappointing CDs of 2005 (da companion thread!)

[CptPlanet]

Okay just list CDs that you didn't like and say where they were terrible or just disappointing and then maybe tell us why if you're feeling up to it! I'm going to do a bunch because I haven't really seriously made fun of music for awhile:

5. Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
Disappointing. Too much guitar, not enough catchy. Boards of Canada is cool because they can do spacey ambient tunes without being boring. Still a good album, but not a good BoC album. C+

4. Mew - And The Glass Handed Kites
Bad and disappointing.
Frengers: Self-consciously Danish bags of estrogen chirping giddily about God-knows-what.
ATGHK: Self-consciously Danish bags of estrogen chirping morosely about God-knows-what. 18%

3. Metric - Live it Out
Bad and disappointing. Metric is good at surrounding a few really terrific songs with a bunch of songs that aren't particularly memorable but still aren't terrible. This album surrounds a few songs that aren't particularly memorable with a bunch of songs that are terrible. Yuck! 0/2

2. My Chemical Romance - Life on the Murder Scene
This actually doesn't come out until 2006 and even then I'm not going to listen to it but I just wanted to say thanks for making the mall a thousand times more depressing than I ever thought it could be and also for making MySpace a thousand times more depressing than the mall. Oh and your guitar player is uglier than a mud fence. 1:08am

1. Avenged Sevenfold - What the hell is our album's name? Who cares here's a picture of us: http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/1871/a7x0ub.jpg
It's pretty cliche to rant about a band as transparently awful as Avenged Sevenfold, and if it turns out that they actually are some kind of clever Spinal Tap/Tenacious D cock-rock parody then I'll take back what I said about the dire shittiness of their music, and maybe I'll even respect them slightly for making the most hilariously clumsy Hunter S. Thompson reference outside of a Junior College English class.

Even if that does turn out to be true though, it doesn't excuse them at all for being uglier than the ugly guitar player in My Chemical Romance. Also rock music will never see a more pathetic subgenre than "metalcore," and whether they're making fun of it or not, people are taking them seriously and I think that's irresponsible. It actually makes me nostalgic for rap-metal. f=ma




Okay that's the rundown on the stuff that's really been stewin' my potato!!!! Feel free to sidetrack this thread with jokes about how this post was way too long or how I have no clue what I'm talking about/have too much time on my hands/probably like Britney Spears and Avril Lavigne.

[quartersmostly]

I liked every cd that came out this year.

[CptPlanet]

2005 was a terrible year for music. Maybe I'm just bitter because there was no new J-Kwon album.

[terris]

this was a really bad year for music, i wanted to try and argue but i can't

although i do love the new boards of canada


broken social scene was beyond dissappointing, and it's their own fault for making you forgot it in people so painfully good



the new daft punk was a dissapointment and a half for queer daft punk fans like me, but was a resounding success to queer electro clash fans who like peaches

i didnt mind the new chemical brothers was pretty decent

and i liked the new kanye west album even though you will hate me for liking it seth, but the entire album is worth it for jay-z on the diamonds from sierra leone remix


and i want to kill the go team so bad

gorillaz was pretty good, but i was high a lot when it came out


oh and bendis's run on new avengers has been solid so far, but i'm worried that either wolverine or spider man will leave the team soon, which will pretty much make it the old avengers

either way im excited for 2006

[klaus_kinski]

Whatever, whatever

[ME!!!!]

Scenester alert!!! You know, some of us don't live in New York, therefore our local bands suck.

[ME!!!!]

Oh, and this band "Anomaly" is pretty fucking good. I "discovered "them on myspace. So take that faggot.

[klaus_kinski]

Whatever, whatever

[CptPlanet]

I've given plenty of Tucson and Phoenix bands a chance. Phoenix churns out nothing but bland emo-pop bands trying to be the next Jimmy Eat World and Tucson music is absolute diarrhea. And regardless of what you think Jeff you were asking that to be a dick.

[quartersmostly]

I used to go see a lot more local shit it my younger days but don't do it nearly as much. If I wanted to I could talk about a bunch of bands from Seattle that totally kick ass but nobody except a couple people from seattle would know what the fuck I was talking about. Anyway here are some bands in Seattle that I think are good

The Lights
The Cops
Charming Snakes
Schoolyard Heroes
Slendar Means
Math & Physics Club (althought hey are wearing on me a bit)
Band of Horses (cd comes out in 2006)
Coconut Coolouts (no cd but they kick ass)
Bad Dudes (from the L.A. are they tour a bunch go see them if you can)
The Can't See (John Atkins from 764-Hero)
Dark Sergeant (broke up but fucking great)
Siberian
Holy Ghost Revival
Natalie Portman's Shaved Head
The Divorce
Popular Shapes (broke up but put out one cd. It's called Bikini Style and it is fucking great)

I'm sure there are more that I am forgeting some bands. Not all of these bands put out cds this year but about half of them did.

[klaus_kinski]

Originally posted by CptPlanet
And regardless of what you think Jeff you were asking that to be a dick.

Whatever. I hope a plane crashes into your face

[Kelsy]

I saw this local band on Saturday called The Turd Burglars. haha hahah funny name hahaha i dont remember what they sounded like but they were all ugly.

[agent_PUNT]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
Do you guys ever just go and see random bands that are playing near you?

before TJ gets here i want to say this...

what the hell is a random band?

do they grab a guy from the audience and hand him a guitar, grab a chinese girl from the streets and put her on the drums?

ahah now that's random!

(ps i don't listen to music. so i have no right to be here)

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
Whatever. I hope a plane crashes into your face

I'd rather talk music with Brent DiCrescenzo dicknose.

[quartersmostly]

It's so cute how Klaus and Cptn's periods have synced up.

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
It's so cute how Klaus and Cptn's periods have synced up.

i'm kind of a zing machine today.

[tjamick]

Originally posted by agent_PUNT
before TJ gets here i want to say this...

what the hell is a random band?

do they grab a guy from the audience and hand him a guitar, grab a chinese girl from the streets and put her on the drums?

ahah now that's random!

(ps i don't listen to music. so i have no right to be here)
Thanks Nick!

On a note related to this thread (hahahahahahahahahahaha note! get it! because we're talking about music!!!) the only album i bought this year that actually came out this year was whatever the new Eels CD is called. I'm posting it here because i was pissed at it for making me buy it. I love Eels, but this new one was so lazy. I'd probably enjoy it if it werent for the song "Son of a Bitch" which just sounded like the product of a highschool emotional support groups "Make your own Tom Waits song" assignment.

[Banjo]

On original topic:

My biggest musical disappointment for 2005 had to be The White Stripes. Jack White needs to take his ass back to Detroit and start sucking off Mick Collins, whom he owes dearly.

On side topic:

I see a lot less local music than I used to, being almost 36 and working a day job and doing comedy at night and all, but I do keep an eye (ear?) on a few Minneapolis-scene bands you'll probably never hear of, including Tapes n Tapes, The Front Porch Swinging Liquor Pigs, Belles of Skin City, Dan Kase and the Crush Collision Trio and Happy Apple.

[ME!!!!]

Is all it takes to get a rabid local following an "obscure semi-literate celebrity in a weird situation" for your name?

[creator of AM]

Originally posted by Banjo
On original topic:On side topic:
... and Happy Apple.

DUDE! I love these guys! the drummer's main* band is The Bad Plus, who released an album less than par this year, but I saw them in Nov and they were amazing (Bad Plus).

But this is probably the wrong thread to get excited in

*by "main" I mean successful

[Brain Stew]

For awhile I was into a band that was so underground, the members haven't been born yet. They will really rock in the future.

Of course, now that I've told you guys about the band they're too exposed.

[CptPlanet]

getting back on topic

Originally posted by terris


the new daft punk was a dissapointment and a half for queer daft punk fans like me, but was a resounding success to queer electro clash fans who like peaches

I never really liked Daft Punk that much but I hate electroclash even more that sucks.


and i want to kill the go team so bad


I think there's an unspoken rule that any band with an exclamation point in their name can be dismissed outright.

[Rabot]

I think Queens Of The Stone Age's Luabies to Paralize was a dissapointment, I mean it is still a good album but it's not nearly as good as the other three. I doubt anything will top the self titled album in my opinion but I was seriously looking for something more...

Daft Punk also lost a lot of merrit in my book, I used to love them.

The biggest dissapointments of all however were that Earthlings? e3? never came out and Eagles Of Death Metal's Death By Sexy got delayed till summer '06. Although technicaly they still have a few days to whip it into shape.

Overall I don't think 2005 was an absolute waste. I waited patiently for the new Beck, Mars Volta, Queens of The Stone Age, and Gorillaz albumbs and I enjoyed them all thuroughly (for the most part)

[Roddimus]

Princess Superstar - My Machine
Ugh. Why is it that when a musician decides to start wearing their hair up, their music automatically begins to suck?
This electro glam crap needs to get bowel cancer and die. Painfully.

[terris]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
Do you guys ever just go and see random bands that are playing near you? Bands that are completely anonymous, aren't represented by a label or enjoying some hipster buzz and are only charging a few bucks cover?

I am not asking to be a jerk, I am being dead serious. All the bands you've listed (best of '05 or worst of '05) are all at a point of popularity that makes debating their merit totally pointless. There's no personal touch to any of your choices in either thread.

I guess I'm saying that nobody is taking any risks in discovering new music. You're being fed it. No one likes to explore anymore.



my answer in short

I did at one point go to check out random bands to see if i could discover anything i liked, and my city has a really fucking good music scene, infact 3 of my favourite bands of all time are hamilton based bands that the rest of the world will most likely never get to hear sadly enough


however, the scene in my city and those surrounding it got a bit to hip and a bit to fucking shitty for me. it's gotten to the point where i really think they worship bands based on how unmusical it can be. "oh shit you guys can't play your guitars, but you have a kazoo player, and your six year old niece does background vocals, man you guys are amazing!"


that's is hounestly the feeling i get when i go to shows now a days

and as far as talking about bigger bands, or more obvious hipster choices, i think that just makes sense, as we are all live pretty far from eachother, and most of those were c.d.s that people from all over could hear or would have heard of if they were music fans



also i'll start caring about local music when my band starts playing shows again and we have to be nice to other bands to get shows at first

[quartersmostly]

Originally posted by Rabot
Overall I don't think 2005 was an absolute waste. I waited patiently for the new Beck, Mars Volta, Queens of The Stone Age, and Gorillaz albumbs and I enjoyed them all thuroughly (for the most part)

Ok I'm with Klaus now.

[Banjo]

But Rabot's only 12. Cut him some slack. Or whatever that spot just beneath the Adam's apple is called...

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
Ok I'm with Klaus now.
is it just because he said the mars volta or do you hate all those other ones too?

i'm with you either way, i'm just asking.

[quartersmostly]

Out of those four bands the only one I like is Beck. In high school I was a huge fan and still love most of his records. I thought Midnight Vultures was a huge piece of crap and he hasn't been able to win me back since. I thought that sea changes was good but it's not something I ever want to listen to so maybe it's not. I feel the same way about his new record, I just don't care anymore. I appreciate him for tying new things but I just think that his creative peak has come and gone.

That new Mars Volta record is a shit storm.

The Gorrillza were better when they didn't exist

I just never got into Queens of the Stonage.


Also all four of those records are way over hyped

[quartersmostly]

Fuck all those records made the Rolling Stone Top 50 so I guess I'm wrong.

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
Fuck all those records made the Rolling Stone Top 50 so I guess I'm wrong.

shit dude! if we disagree with a totally relevant magazine like rolling stone we're dead meat! coldplay is phenomenal!

[Rabot]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
Also all four of those records are way over hyped

I agree completely with this stament...but that doesn't mean you can't like tha albums...

I've been jamming to the queens since I was like 12 so they can't really do wrong by me, but like i said thier new album was a bit of a dissapointment. De Loused in the Camotorium by Mars Voltas rocked my world and I like this new album as well, it's not as good as de loused and it turned me off at first, it took me a bit to get into it but I enjoyed it for a while. As far as becka nd the gorillaz i have no excuse other than that I apparently have no taste in music.

I just want to add that these albums are not my favorite by any means nore are they in any top lists of mine (other than those relased this year) but they still are worthy of my itunes music library (but so are pet shop boys and wham! so I guess thats not saying much).

[klaus_kinski]

I hate Jazz

[ME!!!!]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I hate Jazz

[5InchTaint]

Anything that has to do with you guys and your faggoty whiny music makes it into my Worst/most disappointing threads of 2005. For God's sake, take your fucking music conversations to an appropriate website. The fact that I've chimed in once or twice makes me so much less of a man that I can't even believe you shitstains even have testicles any longer. Put an end to these music conversations or put an end to your lives...I'll accept either solution.

[5InchTaint]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I hate Jazz
Ignorant asshole. Statements like this only bolster my point.

[terris]

Originally posted by 5InchTaint
Ignorant asshole. Statements like this only bolster my point.

ya me too, what the fuck is up with opinions?

seriously guys, agree with us or else.

[Brain Stew]

FART

[klaus_kinski]

Originally posted by 5InchTaint
Ignorant asshole. Statements like this only bolster my point.

Wigger

[scotch-romanian]

have you ever met a wigger who'd defend jazz music?

[klaus_kinski]

Originally posted by scotch-romanian
have you ever met a wigger who'd defend jazz music?
Yes, and he goes by the moniker '5inchtaint'

And, yes, I have NEVER heard a form of that Jazz I like. And I refuse to continue to dig through the history of the artform to uncover a bit I may somewhat enjoy. From Miles Davis to Chick Corea, I've heard heaps and heaps of jazz and sadly haven't heard a 'measure' I enjoy.

TAINT! How much of something does someone have to expose himself to before he can offer his opinion with some degree of legitimacy (by your standards)? I'd bet I've heard more jazz than you, and yet my lack of enjoyment of the art is deemed 'ignorant'? You're smarter than that dude.

I have exerted more effort in trying to understand jazz than you, yet my conclusion is invalid and ignorant?

I can believe a fat piece of dog shit is getting me so worked up.

[terris]

klaus kinski

more like mouse mince meat

[Roddimus]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I have exerted more effort in trying to understand jazz than you, yet my conclusion is invalid and ignorant?

This reminds me of just about every argument I've had with someone who loves the Beatles.
I can go on and on about how nothing they made interests or engages me, but at the end of the day, as far as they're concerned I "just haven't heard the right song" or am "close minded and ignorant of modern music."
Some people love their music a little too much sometimes.

[quartersmostly]

Have you listened to the Whit Album? And I mean really listened to it.

[Roddimus]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
Have you listened to the Whit Album? And I mean really listened to it.
Yes. Many, many times. My parents practically raised me on the entire Beatles catalogue, and my first job had them on rotation all frigging day.
Just about every single Beatles fan has pointed to the White Album whenever I've said I don't like the Beatles.
It still sounds too poppy for my tastes.

[ME!!!!]

The beatles made alot of good songs. But they made a lot more shitty ones.

Good- "A Day In the Life" "tommarow never knows" "she said, she said"

Bad- Everything else

[quartersmostly]

just to be clear I was making a joke. Although I think the beatles are great, I have no interest in trying to convince people of that.

[Roddimus]

Ah, good one.

[5InchTaint]

Why would someone continually listen to a form of music they hate? That doesn't make any sense. Also, maybe the reason you don't like the Beatles was that it was forcefed to you.

[Roddimus]

My folks also listened to a lot of Pink Floyd and Blue Oyster Cult when I was a kid, and I enjoy their stuff a lot.
You can forcefeed me salted liver and say "you don't like it 'cause its being forced on you," but it won't change the fact that I simply don't like the taste of liver.

[quartersmostly]

It warms my heart to see that the "music we hate" thread has more posts than the "music we like thread".

[ME!!!!]

That's just the way it is. Some things will never change.









(Does anyone know where I can get a MIDI of the cougar growling noise, cause it's johnny cougar)

[5InchTaint]

I'm pretty sure thats Bruce Hornsby, actually.

[heroin bob]

No. It's Tupac.

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
Yes, and he goes by the moniker '5inchtaint'

And, yes, I have NEVER heard a form of that Jazz I like. And I refuse to continue to dig through the history of the artform to uncover a bit I may somewhat enjoy. From Miles Davis to Chick Corea, I've heard heaps and heaps of jazz and sadly haven't heard a 'measure' I enjoy.

TAINT! How much of something does someone have to expose himself to before he can offer his opinion with some degree of legitimacy (by your standards)? I'd bet I've heard more jazz than you, and yet my lack of enjoyment of the art is deemed 'ignorant'? You're smarter than that dude.

I have exerted more effort in trying to understand jazz than you, yet my conclusion is invalid and ignorant?

I can believe a fat piece of dog shit is getting me so worked up.

Hates all jazz, likes any metal.

BAD TASTE ALERT WOOP WOOP WOOP

also played drums in a ska band so triple that

[klaus_kinski]

It wasn't ska, jerk. It was rock with one horn. There was some dancehall style tunes, but it was mostly rock.

Your taste in music is much worse, fatso, because it's generic college radio faggot bullshit

[Kelsy]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
It's so cute how Klaus and Cptn's periods have synced up.

[heroin bob]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
It wasn't ska, jerk. It was rock with one horn.

Oooh... you were in Cake?

[Rabot]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
Yes, and he goes by the moniker '5inchtaint'

And, yes, I have NEVER heard a form of that Jazz I like. And I refuse to continue to dig through the history of the artform to uncover a bit I may somewhat enjoy. From Miles Davis to Chick Corea, I've heard heaps and heaps of jazz and sadly haven't heard a 'measure' I enjoy.

Dude you have to listen to the notes they ARN'T playing.

p.s. cake rocks!

[5InchTaint]

I like Cake too. Let's see how long it takes Klaus to make a fat joke.

[Brain Stew]

The problem with jazz is the same problem with ultra-trendy hipster "scene" music: there is no concern for the audience whatsoever. It's so masturbatory, that I think that jazz musicians are enjoying things more when the audience ISN'T enjoying the music.

This sort of contempt for listeners breeds the undeserved superiority complex of the music student. Just because they can write classical music to the correct mechanical specifications doesn't mean they can tell me what is "wrong" with a modern piece of music.

[ME!!!!]

Originally posted by Brain Stew
The problem with jazz is the same problem with ultra-trendy hipster "scene" music: there is no concern for the audience whatsoever. It's so masturbatory, that I think that jazz musicians are enjoying things more when the audience ISN'T enjoying the music.

This sort of contempt for listeners breeds the undeserved superiority complex of the music student. Just because they can write classical music to the correct mechanical specifications doesn't mean they can tell me what is "wrong" with a modern piece of music.

And all along I thought the problem with jazz was that it sucked...

[Brain Stew]

Whatever. Even when people are agreeing, they are assholes to each other around here.

[heroin bob]

Originally posted by Brain Stew
Whatever. Even when people are agreeing, they are assholes to each other around here.

I agree, faggot.

[Pali]

Personally, I think it's pretty fucking retarded to make such a broad statement as 'I hate jazz.' All this bullshit about disregarding the entire genre as masturbatory, you're simply referring to aspects like interpretive or improvisational jazz. Try listening to bands like 'The Cinematic Orchestra' or 'Polar Bear,' those highlight just how diverse jazz can be, and how moronic it is to simply label the entire genre as unwaveringly shit.

I don't like every single jazz record that's ever been released, but there's plenty of music marked as being part of the jazz genre that I do enjoy. I mean even Louis Armstrong is classified as jazz, and 'Potato Head Blues' and 'Just One of Those Things' are a couple of my favourite songs regardless of classification.

I'd just like to add however, that all metal is shit, and Mars Volta are shit too. Shit.

[klaus_kinski]

Originally posted by Pali
Personally, I think it's pretty fucking retarded to make such a broad statement as 'I hate jazz.' All this bullshit about disregarding the entire genre as masturbatory, you're simply referring to aspects like interpretive or improvisational jazz. Try listening to bands like 'The Cinematic Orchestra' or 'Polar Bear,' those highlight just how diverse jazz can be, and how moronic it is to simply label the entire genre as unwaveringly shit.

I don't like every single jazz record that's ever been released, but there's plenty of music marked as being part of the jazz genre that I do enjoy. I mean even Louis Armstrong is classified as jazz, and 'Potato Head Blues' and 'Just One of Those Things' are a couple of my favourite songs regardless of classification.

I'd just like to add however, that all metal is shit, and Mars Volta are shit too. Shit.

DUDE! Shut up! You're generic argument basically states "Spend you life listening to hours of this music because maybe you'll find something you like.... eventually. But maybe you won't. But please do anyway so faggots like me can be happy."

And your comment about metal applies to British people too, except Richard Burton, John Hurt, Julie Christie, Pink Floyd, and Norman Wisdom

[quartersmostly]

Howard Kremer has a pretty good bit about how Jazz sucks and how the only thing worse is smooth jazz. It's pretty funny. This seemed appropriate to mention this being and thread about jazz on a comedy message board

[klaus_kinski]

Also, to pali and all the other pretentious white folks out there: if I had said "All Jazz sucks" then MAYBE your arguments would have some validity. But I simply said "I hate Jazz". It's an opinion based on the multitude of Jazz I;ve heard in my 28 years on earth. End of story.

In short, that statement is not wrong.

Now go watch a fucking Princess Di expose and then catch up on some Cash in the Attic

And stop acting like you know a lot about jazz. That's one of white peoples' biggest follies

[heroin bob]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
That's one of white peoples' biggest follies

Please name another, just to humor me.

I, for one, was very disappointed with this year's Oasis offering. But it's been that way since 'Be Here Now'. And I'm not British, either!

[quartersmostly]

So now you hate white people.

[Pali]

Oasis are shit.

And Klaus, get your mothers dick our of your ass for 5 seconds and read things for what they actually say, instead of interpreting them through your veil of preconceptions and pubic facial hair.

I never said to listen to every single fucking fucking FUCKING jazz song ever recorded, and then say whether you hate jazz, I was simply saying that you can't lump every single song that falls under that genre into the shit catagory based on only what you've experienced of what you understand to be jazz. My main point, which perhaps wasn't put across so clearly, was that it's fucking retarded to say you hate any genre of music, simply because every genre encompasses a wide variety of very different music, and for what some people might fall into the 'blues' catagory could fall into the 'hip hop dance' catagory for another. Basically, the very act of lumping songs into genres, and subsequently judging all those you've placed into them in one fell swoop, is extremely vague, because the genre itself might mean different things for different people.

If you like referring to artists or songs according to genre, why don't you go write for Rolling Stone you worthless maggot-eating piece of shit.

In addition, I wasn't aware there was a person called Pink Floyd. You're a cunt.

p.s. When exactly did I suggest I knew a lot about jazz?

[heroin bob]

Originally posted by Pali
Oasis are shit.

You got me there.

Another disappointing effort this year was Mr. McCartney's new one. Almost as bad as the new Coldplay. Paul's year went steadily downhill since his Superbowl gig, though. Can we argue about the Beatles some more?

What's with shitty British music this past year? How was this past year different from other 'past years'? Has David Bowie made a good album in the last two decades? And whatever happened to Andrew Ridgely anyway?

[morgan morgan]

Even though I agree with Pali on a lot of what he said I still have to vote him "Scariest Poster of the Year". I mean, talk about the reply from the black lagoon. That actually frightened me!

[klaus_kinski]

I hate Jazz

[creator of AM]

I like some jazz, other jazz I hate. Some Pink Floyd songs could be considered jazz. Smooth jazz for sure is pure shit. Much like a lot of british music. But Badly Drawn Boy is pretty good, one of my favorites. or should I say "favourites"?

I guess I should mention I also like metal, but not enough to put any effort into trying to get into any bands, or buying into it either. if i hear something I like, i'll look into it a little and maybe buy it on ebay for 3 cents.

I don't know where I was going with this statement about what I like, I'm going back to grand theft auto. I made my guy super fat and he runs around in his underwear covered in tattoos, I'm SO awesome and unique!

[Pali]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I hate Jazz

How about I bite your dick off?

[5InchTaint]

Thelonious Monk bit John Coltrane's dick off once. It didn't turn out too bad, actually.

[tjamick]

Jeff, what do you think of jazz from the angle of a musician? I'm not really asking about your personal tastes. There's a lot of stuff that origanated from jazz that is done in lots of music -- chord progressions (ecspecially "alternative" ones), dissonince (sp) to an extent, usage of instuments (your band probably wouldnt have a brassist (i dont know what he plays. horn?) if it wasnt for jazz. yeah, it was used in some blues, but the main usage of brass in rock origanated in jazz) ect. Also, what about Zappa; A good majority of his music can easily be classified as jazz, or The Velvet Underground - they wouldnt be considered jazz, but from a technical stand point songs like "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Run Run Run" have many qualities of jazz.
What about in movies? I can't think of a film that has lots of jazz in the soundtrack at the moment because it's not really needed for this arguement, but you have to agree that in several instances a jazzy underscore properly sets the scene.
I'm sounding totally pretentious, so i'm gonna shut up.

[quartersmostly]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I hate Jazz

[tjamick]

Originally posted by quartersmostly
Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I hate Jazz
I'mma say it again
Originally posted by tjamick
Also, what about Zappa; A good majority of his music can easily be classified as jazz
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/tjamick/jefflovinthejazz.jpg
http://www.musicmatic.de/Z/Zappa_12a.jpg






























Just the amount of work i went through to make this post should be cause for jeff to like jazz.

[ME!!!!]

Wait guys... I think I might like jazz now





Does the Charley Brown Christmas Special soundtrack count as jazz?

[CptPlanet]

.

[klaus_kinski]

Actually, TJ, you bring up a good point. I have been playing guitar and drums for many many years and have to admit that I did look to jazz drummers for influence on how to loosen up and play tastier, lighter, yet more profound fills. I've never looked to Jazz musicians for influence on how to play guitar though. Dunno why. Anyway, yes, I did look to jazz drummers in order to improve my technique. There's nothing jazzy about how I play drums, but the influence was more about feel, being more relaxed, and having a more simplified power behind the kit.

It wasn't the music they were playing I liked. It was how they were playing it.

Probably doesn't make sense, huh

PS, nice picture of me. I didn't realize I was so gummy. but fuck I am good looking

[5InchTaint]

Originally posted by klaus_kinski
I've never looked to Jazz musicians for influence on how to play guitar though. Dunno why.
Maybe because Jazz guitar sucks.

[quartersmostly]

Originally posted by 5InchTaint
Maybe because Jazz guitar sucks.
What about Django Reinhardt?
(obvious legendary jazz guitarist that makes me look like I have something to add to this conversation.)

[AndersLevant]

You know what I love, Pali? Judging books by their covers.

It really simplifies my life.

[Pali]

You know what I love, Anders? Not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

edit: Either way, nothing I wrote was meant to be taken seriously.

[Rabot]

Originally posted by 5InchTaint
Maybe because Jazz guitar sucks.

But Jazz flute on the other hand...

[ME!!!!]

Originally posted by Rabot
But Jazz flute on the other hand...


Just to be sure which new low the board has sunk to--Are you referencing Jethro Tull or Anchorman?

[Rabot]

both!:D

(smiles are pretty low too)

[CptPlanet]

Originally posted by ME!!!!
Just to be sure which new low the board has sunk to--Are you referencing Jethro Tull or Anchorman?

anchorman was a funny movie and you're a complete faggot if you disagree

[ComedySnobedy]

Originally posted by tjamick
Jeff, what do you think of jazz from the angle of a musician? I'm not really asking about your personal tastes. There's a lot of stuff that origanated from jazz that is done in lots of music -- chord progressions (ecspecially "alternative" ones), dissonince (sp) to an extent, usage of instuments (your band probably wouldnt have a brassist (i dont know what he plays. horn?) if it wasnt for jazz. yeah, it was used in some blues, but the main usage of brass in rock origanated in jazz) ect. Also, what about Zappa; A good majority of his music can easily be classified as jazz, or The Velvet Underground - they wouldnt be considered jazz, but from a technical stand point songs like "All Tomorrow's Parties" and "Run Run Run" have many qualities of jazz.
What about in movies? I can't think of a film that has lots of jazz in the soundtrack at the moment because it's not really needed for this arguement, but you have to agree that in several instances a jazzy underscore properly sets the scene.
I'm sounding totally pretentious, so i'm gonna shut up.

American Splendor had a bunch of jazz in the soundtrack.

[Rabot]

Originally posted by CptPlanet
anchorman was a funny movie and you're a complete faggot if you disagree

I loved it till the ending, then I thought this would be hillarious if I were high, so I looked at my stoned friends to find they were laughing incredibly hard, so hard infact that most people in the theater were looking in thier direction and some dude asked them what was wrong with them. Not a funny story, just a true one that prooves my observation.

[creator of AM]

Originally posted by Rabot
I loved it till the ending, then I thought this would be hillarious if I were high, so I looked at my stoned friends to find they were laughing incredibly hard, so hard infact that most people in the theater were looking in thier direction and some dude asked them what was wrong with them. Not a funny story, just a true one that prooves my observation.

where do you get your pot? our only connection is in oakland, but that's through a friend of a friend

[Rabot]

I'm from humboldt...

p.s. This is an awesome xmas discussion.

[5InchTaint]

Originally posted by Rabot
I'm from humboldt...


Mail me buds or else you'll find a permenant spot on my shit list.

[5InchTaint]

Originally posted by ComedySnobedy
American Splendor had a bunch of jazz in the soundtrack.
A lot of that music was bastardizations of "Kind of Blue". The soundtrack album doesn't allude to it but it does have a track by Jay McShann called "T'aint Nobody's Bizness If I Do", so I guess I'll let it slide. Plus, it's kind of hard to find a jazz musician who hasn't been influenced by that album. My tastes are Death Metal, Metal, Rock, and 'Kind of Blue', especially in the SACD version is perhaps the most perfect album I've ever encountered. Blah, shit, drunk, asshole.

[creator of AM]

has anybody heard Brian's cd, Live In: Nerd Rage?

[RizzleMcIzzle]

Yeah. Why? Want to talk about it? I'm here for you.

[creator of AM]

i haven't heard it. just wanted to know how it is. i go back and forth thinking that he's funny

[RizzleMcIzzle]

I like it. I'm not too familar with his Comedy Central Presents, but somebody told me that some of the stuff on the CD is from that as well. Is that what you're basing his funniness (or lack there of) on?

One of his bits involves the story from this (http://www.blowupthemoon.com/community/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1893) thread.

[ME!!!!]

Originally posted by CptPlanet
anchorman was a funny movie and you're a complete faggot if you disagree

http://www.gaydefilm.nl/gay-wp2-800.jpg

[Maple Syrup]

Humboldt pot mostly sucks. I know you'll agree with me there, Rabot. We send ours to a club in the bay area... Hey Taint, why mail buds when you can mail keef? I can, and I have a successful method. My honey oil's good too. Now all you need to do is send an absolute stranger that you hate money. I was actually going to PM you about it sometime... but here you are dragging it all in the public eye. You've just GOT to be the center of attention, don't you?

And I hated Anchorman the first time I saw it, but later it grew on me. The commentary might even be funnier than the movie. Seriously, listen to it if you haven't. KG's on there for whatever reason... I think JB is too. Andy Richtor's great on it as well.

[Rabot]

Yeah it's terrible unless you know what to look for. But that terrible shit can still be sold south of santa rosa for twice its worth.

God I hate rich kids but they are paying for all my luxeries.

[Maple Syrup]

A dictionary not being one of them, I can see... We're on the Mendonoma coast... Besides all the recent weather issues it's cool. We do dro, so we make good money, but still have to search for the medicinals from the dirt. It's weird buying herb when you have so much, but dro just doesn't do it for me. It never has so I've never worked with it. Now I just kinda have to because it's going so well. You got the OG's for me?

[Rabot]

Nope but I got this for you.

http://www.productionclips.com/actslide.jpg

[Maple Syrup]

Yeah I actually live on that ridge in the background. Get off my land.

[Maple Syrup]

Dude! That was post #420! Gnarly radical tubular yadda yadda yadda...

[Roddimus]

why does maple have a waking life banner in his sig?

[Roddimus]

i mean its one thing if it was linked to somewhere or had a website on it or an actual pretentious quote from the movie or something but i'm just flummoxed.

[KyleGassProject]

Worst albums (or most disappointing, anyway) of 2006, in no particular order:


Sam's Town --The Killers

Revelations --Audioslave

Playing With Fire --K-Fed (all time worst contender)

The Information --Beck

Idlewild --Outkast

Shine On --Jet

In My Mind --Pharrell Williams

The Dutchess --Fergie

Continuum --John Mayer

Paris --Paris Hilton

[heroin bob]

Worst albums (or most disappointing, anyway) of 2006, in no particular order:


Sam's Town --The Killers

Revelations --Audioslave

Playing With Fire --K-Fed (all time worst contender)

The Information --Beck

Idlewild --Outkast

Shine On --Jet

In My Mind --Pharrell Williams

The Dutchess --Fergie

Continuum --John Mayer

Paris --Paris Hilton


You're wrong about John Mayer. Then again I am a fag.

Love how all your big disappointments are from relatively established pop-acts... and the inclusion of them in a list about disappointments says a lot about you because it implies you had high expectations for them. Silly!

Slagging the pop shit is easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Fuck it's easier than LOOKING at fish in a barrel. Your post was unnecessary and redundant - I will be reading this exact same list on shitty popculture blogs thru the end of the month. Nothing screams 'check my indie-cred' than hating the popular shit.

And you are wrong about Beck too.

You just earned your hipster doofus merit badge! Congratulations.

It's my birthday. Long Trail Double Bag was the first person to say 'happy birthday you prick'.

[ritzik]

this thread makes me feel so old I want shove a gun in my mouth

back in my day I was cool, I went to shows featuring Nomeansno, Bad Brains, Laurie Anderson, the Residents, BDP...

now it's all over...

it'll happen to you yungin's too

and if you try too hard to not let it slip away, you become the aging hipster everyone secretly wants mutilate


life sux prison dick

[voodoochile]

I don't listen to anything after 71. But not really though.

[ME!!!!]

Why is the band "The Knife" not considered utter shit? anyone?

[aussiefan]

Serious? ok, ill still let you hang out with me.

[aussiefan]

nah, just that i don't own a cd of theirs.

Thanks for pointing out what has been made fun of for years and put me into a deep depression after high school.

[aussiefan]

I'll get on it. After i clean my room. I heard the new one is good. Great title too.

[aussiefan]

you must like the great pavement and pixies too. My all time favourite guitar band is Built To Spill. Nothing has come close to the experience their albums give me, besides The Flaming Lips and Ben Folds Five

[aussiefan]

Really, were they on gilmore girls. Why the fuck would they do that!? I'll definitely take your word on buying those earlier albums

[aussiefan]

The only cool moment on that show then. Have those fucking actresses heard of beats!? Seth Macfarlane was on that show too, he didn't need to, but he did. I don't understand America.

[aussiefan]

Really? I hate the acting, so the writing must be tight. Do you watch it with your girlfriend? I'm just about to start watching Weeds right now, ive been waiting a while.

[aussiefan]

Yeh, Family Guy made fun of how they talk so fast. You're right, it is very American. Like Scrubs, although alot of Aussies like that show. My mates are so into it, but i've only enjoyed it once stoned, which doesn't say much. Hey, isn't it weird having two seperate conversations at once, with no reference to the other. Meet you over at the other thread.

[aussiefan]

I don't like scrubs. You a fan? I like family guy more now, even though i couldn't recall one story, i still laugh when i watch it, and that's all i watch it for. Futurama is great for jokes and story though. I'm so glad its coming back.

[ME!!!!]

you must like the great pavement and pixies too. My all time favourite guitar band is Built To Spill. Nothing has come close to the experience their albums give me, besides The Flaming Lips and Ben Folds Five


Pavement = Greatest band ever

Pixies = meh

Built To Spill = kinda crappy but Perfect From Now On was incredible. Everything else = boring/kitschy.

Flaming lips = boring/kitschy. I have a t-shirt from their tour with Beck though.

Ben Folds Five = never heard 'em except for that Bitches Ain't Shit cover.

[aussiefan]

that's strange, coz i LOVE all those bands. What a coincidence!!

[ME!!!!]

Alright, Now you've got me wanting to listen to PFNO again and I can't fucking find it!



Could someone please put it on one of those file sender shits?

[aussiefan]

PFNO is one of those albums that is different with each listen. You hear more and more. If you want to speed up the process of finding layers, listen stoned. Amazing. If not, then suck my penis. And no, i don't know how to send it ME!!!, sorry.

[Brain Stew]

PFNO? What does this mean?

[aussiefan]

Perfect From Now On. An album by Built To Spill. One of my favourite albums.

[ME!!!!]

Perfect From Now On


I know it's gay, but I only do it with Modest Mouse/ Built to spill records because the titles are so damn long. I actually still feel retarded for refering to it as that, but am still lazy as hell, so from hence forth I shall refer to it as "Perfect..."

[ME!!!!]

well, that was faggy.

[aussiefan]

MHIABHAYTSTFRII - My Heart Is A Black Hole And You're The Spaceship That Flew Right Into It

[ME!!!!]

lol- Laugh out LOUD!

[Brain Stew]

You guys hear any of The Evens stuff?

Ian Mackaye has gone Indie Rock in this duo and it's really good.

[aussiefan]

No, i haven't. Sounds cool, ill check it out. Have you guys heard The Thermals. Their new one is orgasmatastic.

[ME!!!!]

I shy away from anything that has to do with "hardcore" and doesn't show penetration.

[scotch-romanian]

I need to learn about music. :(

[aussiefan]

Better than the Thermals? I'll have to get on it