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tjamick
02-24-2005, 06:08 PM
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=613484
French comic tries to justify criticism of Holocaust 'pornography'
By Alex Duval Smith in Paris
22 February 2005
A flare-up of racial tension has been sparked off in France after a black stand-up comic, Dieudonné, was reported to have said that the 60th anniversary commemorations of the Holocaust were "remembrance pornography".
Amid wide reporting of the comment by the half-French, half-Cameroonian performer, vandals attacked prominent Muslim and Jewish sites. Swastikas were daubed both on the walls of the Grande Mosquée in Paris and a Second World War railway carriage that stands as a Jewish memorial at a deportation assembly point in the suburb of Drancy.
Police did not suggest that Dieudonné had sparked the attacks but it became clear that his comment was in line with the position of a new internet petition calling for the crimes of colonialism to be recognised and suggesting that Zionists had inspired the French state ban on Muslim headscarves.
Dieudonné's comment was made at a press conference in the Algerian capital, Algiers, last week and picked up by a website covering Middle Eastern affairs as "offensive to the memory of the Holocaust". Dieudonné held a press conference in Paris at the weekend in which he attempted to explain his views.
"I criticised the hype of Holocaust commemoration," he told the press conference. However, he stopped far short of his comments in Algeria last week: "The Zionists have a kind of impunity. For them, if a child at school is called a dirty Jew, they are up in arms. To me, Zionism is the Aids of Judaism. For people like me, it is different. We feel the Zionist lobby has claimed a monopoly of suffering."
Despite his attempts to calm spirits, Dieudonné met with widespread condemnation. The Socialist party's first secretary, François Hollande, and a former anti-racism campaigner, Harlem Désir, described the comedian as "the biggest anti-Semite in France'' and called for a boycott of his shows.
Last year, Dieudonné M'Bala M'Bala, 36, had several shows cancelled - including at the 2,000-seater Olympia venue in Paris after organisers said they could not guarantee the safety of the audience or the performer. At the time, he had attracted criticism for a television sketch in which, dressed in military fatigues and wearing a wide-brimmed hat associated with Orthodox Jews, he said: "I urge all of you [viewers] to convert like me [to Judaism]. Join the axis of Good, the American-Zionist axis." He ended his sketch with a Nazi salute and the cry "Isra-Heil".
The sketch led to a court case and a €10,000 (£6,800) fine. Dieudonné was cleared on appeal. The performer claimed he was of mixed race and thus "knew no borders".
In 2002, the comic considered running for President of France but another joke scuppered his chances of collecting the 500 signatures needed. At the time he said: "I prefer Osama Bin Laden's charisma to that of George W Bush."
24 February 2005 18:06
agent_PUNT
02-24-2005, 07:06 PM
interesting note: Cameroon used to be a German colony...
ME!!!!
02-24-2005, 07:20 PM
This was acually really interesting. It brought up alot of things about the anti-zionist movement in Europe that americans are oblivious to. I remeber seeing something on PBS about the rise of "anti-semetic" sympathies in Europe. I have also attended a lector by a prominant Palistinian civil rights leader on this. It's also interesting to note that this is a very different type of "racism"(I cringe to call it that) that what we think of here in america.
It is acually more of a liberal movement serving the people's outrage at the atrocities that the Israli government has commited, and then is seemingly aquitted of because of their pandering to the simpathies of the holocaust. It's not commending the holocaust, but showing the irony of the zionists crying over the genocide and the persecution of their people, while executing there own against the Palistinians.
TomWopat
02-24-2005, 08:31 PM
If it involves blacks and jews, I don't read it.
RizzleMcIzzle
02-24-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by agent_PUNT
interesting note: Cameroon used to be a German colony...
I'm about to make a Nintendo reference...
Cameroon is also the first team you play in World Cup Soccer. They suck.
agent_PUNT
02-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by RizzleMcIzzle
I'm about to make a Nintendo reference...
Cameroon is also the first team you play in World Cup Soccer. They suck.
um in real life Cameroon has a very good soccer team.
don't mess with my Cameroon.
RizzleMcIzzle
02-24-2005, 09:33 PM
Does this look like a good team to you?
http://www.nes-site.com/articles/article_11/images/world_cup_02.gif
I don't know shit about real soccer, so I'll take your word for it.
AndersLevant
02-24-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm glad I don't have AIDS. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing Rizzle of anything persay, I'm just saying I'm glad it's not me. Listen, just be careful about which fluids you swap with certain people.
fritter
02-24-2005, 11:54 PM
i used to pump gas because it was a dream of mine when i was like eight years old and i got into this dream fulfillment stage (i never did get to feel samantha fox's boobs:mad: ) and i used to crack up whenever i asked someone if i could check their fluids, both because of the obvious and because of dr strangelove, and also if you ever get a chance to go to a world cup game you should go even to the qualifying matches i saw us vs el salvador and you'd never know how many of those little buggers are here you just think they're mexican but HANG ON NOW they're el salvadorian and i also saw jamaica-us it's a great party and it makes you laugh that they care so much and we don't even think of it as a real sport. when i went to rutgers there was a dude who used to do a flip when he did a throw-in, i used to play ball with the soccer players they would plum wear you out and had good handle but no jumpers. oh yeah and when i would go to a pizza joint they all thought i was alexi lalas because only guineas and such believe in soccer.
when i was sober i thought that article was very interesting and i'd love to see him perform. i'm sorry, dreadfully so.
I read about this earlier in the week. I love how you guys constantly link to stories from the British press. This is a great example of a shitty comic who thinks the key to comedy is coming out with intentionally offensive material which they claim has some important social point to it. This guy is just worthless. It's not that I'm offended by what he's saying or think he should be censored, purely that he isn't funny, and so should be ignored.
At least that was the impression I got.
AndersLevant
02-26-2005, 09:15 PM
Howcome Cpt doesn't like cake donuts?
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 05:45 PM
How come you fill each thread with nonsensical bullshit so you can raise your goddamn post count?
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 07:10 PM
Are you saying that all your 818 posts are important? Or all of Capt's 3000+? Must everyone's posts be as thoroughly crafted as yours? Taint, you average 3.03 posts per day. My daily post average is just 1.82. You registered here four months after I did, and you have roughly 150 more posts than I do. Which means you post here more than 50% more often than I do. Couldn't someone just as easily accuse your previous post here to be just padding your post count?
I've seen by briefly scanning through a good number of your posts that a great deal are merely insults levied at a wide range of people. Maybe if I were angrier and just insulted people more often you'd like me more? I guess your theory is that insults are valid posts.
Uh oh, Taint, what's this? And the several posts you made before it?
http://blowupthemoon.com/community/showthread.php?s=&postid=12900#post12900
Could it be an attempt to merely inflate your post count?
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:38 PM
Eat
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:38 PM
cock
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 08:39 PM
Oh, sorry, did I upset you, Taint?
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:39 PM
you
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:40 PM
rotten
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 08:40 PM
It must have been embarrassing to have someone point something out like that. I hope this has been an important life lesson for you.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:40 PM
octogenarian
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:41 PM
fetishist
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Especially someone whom you are so much better than.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:42 PM
!!825!!
scotch-romanian
02-28-2005, 08:43 PM
Howcome Cpt doesn't like cake donuts?that sounds like nonsensical bullshit to me. why all the fuss, anders? taint is a funny asshole and that's why we love him.
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 08:45 PM
It's not nonsensical bullshit because Capt had said in another thread that he hated cake donuts. I was hoping for an answer.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 08:51 PM
Why didn't you post it in that thread then, dumbass? Oh wait, you go to t.u., that explains your stupidity.
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 08:56 PM
Thanks, Taint. I'm glad somebody finally explained to me why I'm so stupid. Where did you go to college, Taint? Because I'm probably not smart enough or talented enough to have gotten in there.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 09:45 PM
Glass houses motherfucker...
http://www.blowupthemoon.com/community/showthread.php?s=&postid=27088#post27088
BTW, that means you made 80 posts in the past 2 days. I post %50 more than you? Ha!
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 10:06 PM
I thought I laid out the statistics pretty clearly. That's the great part about them. They're true. Since you joined BUTM you have posted 50% more than I have. There is no debating that. You accused me of inflating my post count, so I just pointed out a moment where you were clearly inflating yours. The only thing that I have accused you of doing that I claim to not have done is that you post 50% more often than I do. Which is clearly true. I'm certain that if I wanted to do so, I could find days where you posted much more than I did. That has to be true or my post count would so extravagantly outweigh yours.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 10:18 PM
Actually, your math is as faulty as your logic. %50 of 678 is 339. Therefore I would have to have 1017 posts for that to be true. What you're referring to is the number of posts divided by the days you've been a member. SO, it would make more sense if you said that I have an average of twice as many posts as you each day. Not that I have posted %50 more than you. I win.
Also, if you look at the thread you pointed to, the one where I was padding my post count. You'll notice that Rizzle and I were trying to get to the 250 mark and made no, and will not make, apologies for it. Nice try. I win again.
5InchTaint
02-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Well, I've never made more than 25 posts in one day. Yesterday, you made 47.
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 10:32 PM
That is exactly what I was trying to say. I'm glad you were able to infer that from what I said, which was, "You post here more than 50% more often than I do." I realize that in a later post of mine I did not include the apparently key word "often." For that I apologize, because apparently it caused you some confusion.
And I have not made apologies for the number of posts I have made. (I am willing to put that statement in with the full admission that somewhere you can probably find a post of mine apologizing for posts I have made. Like just above where I apologized for apparently confusing you.) (Here is a second apology.) I am sorry that I do not expressly state the purpose of every post I make before I make such a post. My full point from the beginning of this is that your accusation of mine was filled with hypocrisy. And I still believe that point to be true. Thank you for your time.
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by 5InchTaint
Well, I've never made more than 25 posts in one day. Yesterday, you made 47.
Regardless of that, you joined after me and have more posts than I do. That means over the past months you have posted more than I.
Treebeard
02-28-2005, 11:05 PM
Oh, you men.
fritter
02-28-2005, 11:23 PM
change your name to eucalyptus-masticator and stop whining.
the previous "battle of the comedy nerd mathematicians" was the gayest thing i have ever read, and i read hairy butt sexx weekly.
AndersLevant
02-28-2005, 11:23 PM
Treebeard's addition to the Koala family has made your title less effective, Scotch. If I were you I would engage in a battle with him. It really sharpens the wits.
agent_PUNT
02-28-2005, 11:40 PM
i was going to side with the guy who didn't waste everyone's time by arguing such stupid bullshit...
so i guess i'll just have to side with Cpt instead.
if you're going to resort to looonnngggg pointless fights can you please make it more creative?
not that i'm really any better.
According to MY MATH, if you two bitches had been aborted I would have won the lottery 15 times by now.
You fish-fuckers cost me approx. 196.25 million dollars.
and i have a really small "wee-wee" so that money could have turned my life around.
CptPlanet
03-01-2005, 03:00 AM
damn i totally missed this thread. i was gonna post
"Looks like the French aren't surrendering so easy this time.
DRIVE SAFE EVERYBODY GOD BLESS!"
but i guess i'm just gonna have to say f all yall instead. honestly, who gives a fuck how many posts anyone has? you're never going to beat me because i am an objectively better human being.
Brain Stew
03-01-2005, 03:10 AM
But I'm still cool, right Capt?
5InchTaint
03-01-2005, 07:43 PM
Here's the Dorky Math Faggot with another interesting calculation! Do you know what 111,111,111 multiplied by 111,111,111 equals?
That's right!
12345678987654321
CptPlanet
03-01-2005, 09:45 PM
I guess that counts as interesting... if you're in third grade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulam_spiral
Read it and weep you charlatan.
agent_PUNT
03-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by CptPlanet
I guess that counts as interesting... if you're in third grade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulam_spiral
Read it and weep you charlatan.
it looks like the tiles in my basement.
which is ironic because my basement ceiling is actually just a bunch of swastika's painted all over the place.
for shame.
interesting link tho Cpt. thanks!
AndersLevant
03-01-2005, 10:27 PM
In preparation for my Prehistory of Ice Age America mid-term I have become a Dorky Anthropology Faggot.
Did you know that the title of the Irish cleric who pinpointed the exact moment of the Creation to 9:00 AM was Chief Primate? And that every single anthropology text makes a joke about him having that title? Also, he did that after Archbishop Ussher narrowed the day down to October 23, 4004 BC.
Also, I hate how people are supposed to use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD. They are both based on our Lord's birth year. It seems unnecessary.
*And, yes, Ussher is spelled with two s's.
Brain Stew
03-01-2005, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by AndersLevant
Ussher
I hate his fucking music.
AndersLevant
03-01-2005, 11:36 PM
Goodbye Glacial Man; Hello, Clovis is my second favorite chapter title ever. The first being Genitals from the book Mutants.
scotch-romanian
03-01-2005, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by 5InchTaint
How come you fill each thread with nonsensical bullshit so you can raise your goddamn post count?
5InchTaint
03-01-2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by CptPlanet
I guess that counts as interesting... if you're in third grade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulam_spiral
Read it and weep you charlatan.
Oh yeah!?! Your link might of have been interesting to a 7th grader. Ulam Spiral. What about this faggot? The Gibbs Phenomenon!
http://camelot.mssm.edu/~arc/Teaching/PDE_Spring2005_CVN/Gibbs.pdf
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