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agent_PUNT
01-05-2005, 04:39 PM
CBC Arts
LONDON - And the funniest of them all was... Peter Cook, ahead of John Cleese, Woody Allen, Groucho Marx, and even Laurel and Hardy.

So say more than 300 comics, comedy writers, producers and directors from both sides of the Atlantic who were polled by Britain's Channel 4 television channel.


The late British comedian, who died 10 years ago this month at the age of 57, rose to fame in the 1960s.

He first gained attention at the Edinburgh Festival, where he partnered with the late Dudley Moore in a satirical show called Beyond the Fringe. It revelled in absurdist mockery of British pomposity and officialdom.

Others who worked with him on the ground-breaking skit show were the writers Alan Bennett and Jonathan Miller.

One of Cook's favourite targets was Britain's former prime minister, the Tory grandee Harold McMillan. "Though relatively harmless by today's standards, [it] was the first occasion a major establishment figure had been so mercilessly, and so publicly, mocked," the Observer newspaper wrote Sunday.

Fellow comics pay tribute

Canadian comic actor and writer Mike Myers, best known for his Austin Powers character, said of Cook's quirky and distinctive humour: "I didn't know dirty words could be done that artfully."

American stand-up comic Greg Proops explained Cook's elusive brand of charisma in an interview with the Observer. "There's a kind of insanity which is in his eyes, when he's trying to do dead corpse, and that's where all the magic is, in that evil, evil, brilliant devil."

Beyond the Fringe and the BBC's Not Only... But Also, on which he also collaborated with Dudley Moore, brought Cook iconic status.

Cook also created many of the long-running characters in the magazine Private Eye, which he owned and nurtured through its early days. These included Spiggy Topes, leader of the popular singing group The Turds.

On the strength of their television success, Cook and Moore moved on to movies, among them the cult film Bedazzled.

But the duo slowly broke up in the late 1970s as Moore struck out on his own, eventually making the hit movies 10 and Arthur in the United States. Cook became an alcoholic and died in 1995.

No woman in Top 20

John Cleese, who as the English Riviera hotelier Basil Fawlty created the archetypal English berk and countless buzz phrases such as "Don't mention the war," came second in the poll.

U.S. film-maker and angst-ridden nebbish Woody Allen came third. Eric Morecambe was fourth, but there was no place for his sidekick, Ernie Wise.

Groucho Marx came 5th, Richard Pryor was 10th, and Charlie Chaplin was 18th.

Few women made it into the top 50. The highest-ranked was Victoria Wood, little-known outside Britain, at number 27. U.S. comedienne and cosmetic surgery doyenne Joan Rivers was number 40.

agent_PUNT
01-05-2005, 04:40 PM
Apparently you have to be dead to be funny.

Pali
01-05-2005, 04:49 PM
I agree with the poll. As far as Peter Cook being the funniest.

3v3+Z
01-05-2005, 06:06 PM
Wow! That's your most elaborate hoax yet! Very well written. Only a handful of errors. You really had me going on this one! But then I Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22steve+is+an+asshole%22&btnG=Google+Search)d it... Nice.

agent_PUNT
01-05-2005, 09:41 PM
If anyone can actually find this complete list I'd be very happy.

Thanks.

Pali
01-05-2005, 10:21 PM
1. Peter Cook
2. John Cleese
3. Woody Allen
4. Eric Morecambe
5. Groucho Marx
6. Tommy Cooper
7. Laurel and Hardy
8. Billy Connolly
9. Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer
10. Richard Pryor
11. Chris Morris
12. Tony Hancock
13. Bill Hicks
14. Peter Sellers
15. Steve Martin
16. Ronnie Barker
17. Steve Coogan
18. Charlie Chaplin
19. Eddie Izzard
20. Paul Merton
21. Eric Idle
22. Peter Kay
23. Larry David
24. Rowan Atkinson
25. Bob Hope
26. Harry Hill
27. Victoria Wood
28. Spike Milligan
29. Christopher Guest
30. Michael Palin
31. French and Saunders
32. Eddie Murphy
33. Bob Monkhouse
34. Rik Mayall
35. Steven Wright
36. Ken Dodd
37. Les Dawson
38. Chic Murray
39. Stephen Fry
40. Joan Rivers
41. Joyce Grenfell
42. Phil Silvers
43. Jackie Mason
44. Eric Sykes
45. Robin Williams
46. Paul Whitehouse
47. Bill Cosby
48. Mike Myers
49. Ricky Gervais
50. Mel Brooks.


Yeah, that poll probably isn't very accurate.

I do agree with Peter Cook being number 1 though. Oh and Chris Morris being at 11 sounds about right to me.

Mang0
01-06-2005, 08:06 AM
vic and bob at 9 is a bit of a mystery.

Peter cook at 1 I agree with but why no dudley on the list.

Derek and clive. Pure genius.

fritter
01-07-2005, 12:15 AM
bob monkhouse ahead of chic murray?

Pali
01-07-2005, 01:24 AM
Yeah, there are several names on there of comedians that simply aren't funny. From a historical perspective sure they're important, but let's face it, they just aren't funny anymore.

This could be an interesting discussion!

Treebeard
01-07-2005, 01:30 AM
hey i have an idea lets make a comedian power rankings list we can do a monthly vote and see who the 20 most popular comedians of butm are

CptPlanet
01-07-2005, 03:08 PM
LISTS THAT TRY TO OBJECTIVELY RANK ARTISTS ARE FUCKING STUPID.

Guys who's better Andy Warhol or the Beatles? People who care about this shit are faggots.

3v3+Z
01-07-2005, 03:38 PM
Well, The Beatles did make more money.

agent_PUNT
01-07-2005, 03:46 PM
According to Billboard Sean Puff Diddy Duck Combs is the greatest artist ever.

(Rolling Stone who put him at #2 behind "Jesus and the Thundertraps")

Pali
01-07-2005, 03:56 PM
That reminds me of an idea I had for a joke. Not like a stand-up joke, but just something for about 20 seconds of a short film, where you have a character reading a magazine and explaining it to someone. He explains he's reading a 'top 100' list and then goes 'Ooooh! Matt Damon came 30th!'. The guy goes 'Oh, so it's a top 100 actors of all time list?' and he replies 'No no, just a general top 100 list. Ooooh, sausage is at 25!'

This is one of those things I became obsessed with at 4am while trying to sleep. Maybe not the most fertile time for comedy. Particularly as recently every idea I have seems to turn into a Stella short (everyone starts fucking).

But yes you're right, lists are stupid.

freetibetwpurch
01-16-2005, 10:31 PM
I decided to revive this thread to point out that ROBIN WILLIAMS SUCKS DICK. For some reason i caught part of the golden globes, and they're honoring him. I've liked some of his movies, but his Kedzie Matthews shit is annoying. The golden globes is such a sickening display decadence.

agent_PUNT
01-17-2005, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Pali
That reminds me of an idea I had for a joke. Not like a stand-up joke, but just something for about 20 seconds of a short film, where you have a character reading a magazine and explaining it to someone. He explains he's reading a 'top 100' list and then goes 'Ooooh! Matt Damon came 30th!'. The guy goes 'Oh, so it's a top 100 actors of all time list?' and he replies 'No no, just a general top 100 list. Ooooh, sausage is at 25!'

This is one of those things I became obsessed with at 4am while trying to sleep. Maybe not the most fertile time for comedy. Particularly as recently every idea I have seems to turn into a Stella short (everyone starts fucking).

But yes you're right, lists are stupid.

Hey Pali I think I may have to steal that for a script.

Minus the fucking part.